Two brutally bad calls gave the Gophers a two goal win tonight. It started with two of the absolutely weakest calls I've ever seen made in hockey at any level early in the first period. Weak calls like that happen so it didn't bother me too much. But then they missed a goaltender interference call when Bryce was behind the net to play the puck and was knocked down. I've NEVER seen that NOT CALLED and it was immediately followed by the gayest goal ever from the point. Bryce hadn't gotten fully set in the crease after being tripped and the worst shot ever took two brutal bounces to beat him. What a crock of shit from Campion and Walsh on that play. Ridiculous is the only word for that non-call unless you're a big fan of the word pathetic ... ok ... it was pathetically ridiculous ... ridiculously pathetic?
The second call will be defended by all the faggy "don't want to see Bina-type injury" whiners but the initial contact by Robinson was shoulder to shoulder. The Gopher player was trying to play the puck back up the boards when the hit took place so his body was twisting in the opposite direction of the play when Robbie hit him. Not only was it not a 5 minute major ... it shouldn't have even been a penalty. Players have a responsibility to protect themselves. The Gopher player was rushing to the boards to challenge for a puck. Robbie was rushing to the boards to challenge for a puck. Replay watchers will be all up in arms about the violence of the contact. But it's a game with lots of violent contact. Dufus tried to do too much and got himself into a bad position. There was NOTHING Robbie could do except to not play the game as it was intended to be played. I suppose all the whiners would argue that Robbie shouldn't have went for the puck but I'll respond by saying that takes you down the road to a non-contact game. Maybe Wayne Gretzky and Dean Talafous like that sort of game but I don't.
Don Lucia is definitely a punk. No doubt about it anymore. He sends the one guy on his team out (Miller) who had ZERO ice-time in the preceding 59:30 after the Seawolves get called for too many men and that loser brings his stick down on Bryce's head at the end of the game? Then I'm watching Seawolf players try to not fight while Gopher players who'd barely seen ice time during the game want nothing other than to fight? LOL. What a classless fucking program those dickweeds have turned into. I complimented the shit out of that program before this series. Never again. I hereby promise to lay the nastiness on in layer after layer after layer in whatever manner that I can possibly imagine when writing about them in the future.
To use my Pop's favorite phrase, "The whole thing was disgusting".
The second call will be defended by all the faggy "don't want to see Bina-type injury" whiners but the initial contact by Robinson was shoulder to shoulder. The Gopher player was trying to play the puck back up the boards when the hit took place so his body was twisting in the opposite direction of the play when Robbie hit him. Not only was it not a 5 minute major ... it shouldn't have even been a penalty. Players have a responsibility to protect themselves. The Gopher player was rushing to the boards to challenge for a puck. Robbie was rushing to the boards to challenge for a puck. Replay watchers will be all up in arms about the violence of the contact. But it's a game with lots of violent contact. Dufus tried to do too much and got himself into a bad position. There was NOTHING Robbie could do except to not play the game as it was intended to be played. I suppose all the whiners would argue that Robbie shouldn't have went for the puck but I'll respond by saying that takes you down the road to a non-contact game. Maybe Wayne Gretzky and Dean Talafous like that sort of game but I don't.
Don Lucia is definitely a punk. No doubt about it anymore. He sends the one guy on his team out (Miller) who had ZERO ice-time in the preceding 59:30 after the Seawolves get called for too many men and that loser brings his stick down on Bryce's head at the end of the game? Then I'm watching Seawolf players try to not fight while Gopher players who'd barely seen ice time during the game want nothing other than to fight? LOL. What a classless fucking program those dickweeds have turned into. I complimented the shit out of that program before this series. Never again. I hereby promise to lay the nastiness on in layer after layer after layer in whatever manner that I can possibly imagine when writing about them in the future.
To use my Pop's favorite phrase, "The whole thing was disgusting".
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Well said Donald. Horrible missed call on goalie interference and the call on Robbie was a huge joke. However I also saw that the Seawolves did not play well at all. The team looked very disjointed tonite.
I don't think they played well either.
When Portwood had a SH breakaway chance, the UM player hit him shoulder to shoulder, and Jade went head first into the boards. That is the same EXACT thing that Clark did to Nutini that gave Clark a 5 minute and game DQ. What did UM get? Ummm. Nothing.
The call on Robbie was terrible and a big game changer.
UAA didn't play their best game, but their pp scored and their pk did well, so at least that is improving. They really need to get their passes down.
The 4th goal was not Bryce's fault, Vidmar cleared the puck right to Minnesota, who was on the side of the empty net. That wasn't Vidmar's first pass to the other team. He needs to sit.
We have like 10 or 11 healthy forwards. Both last night and tonight the team had extra defensemen playing forward.
We've been lucky up to this point that we haven't had many injuries to forwards. Now with players sitting out for missing curfew and Grant injured the shortness up front is apparent.
We can't expect Jeff Carlson to do much more than take up space up on the wing. It's a tough situation for him and good for him for giving it his best after he's been so deeply buried on the blueliner depth chart. We can't expect much from Shane Lovdahl at center. Good for him for his effort though.
I don't see our defensive game as being anything other than good. It's been that way for weeks. You've got a number of guys you'd hope to see scoring that just aren't lately.
Bryce played fine. He didn't have to make as many spectacular saves as last night. But tonight the bad calls turned the tide. It's difficult for players to overcome those when they lead to goals for the other team. They killed off over 4 mintues of that 5 minute power play and came OH SO CLOSE to tying the game on the Portwood chance.
I think the guys were tired in the 3rd period. They skated an awful lot with only 3 lines both nights.
I was there and feel that we didnt get out played we just got fucked on calls and a few bad decisions and a couple of miss oppertunities game would have gone diffrent
Vidmar played. Where was Bales and Wiles?
Oh we got outplayed especially in the skating department. The Stoa, Schroeder, Barribal line owned us all weekend.
Robby call was crap. It was obvious even before the replay that the Gopher Sachetti? Looked at Robinson coming to play the puck and turned a little towards the boards. If you can't handle that type of contact then maybe you should spend a year in juniors. I guess the refs just decided to protect the pimply teenagers.
The interference on Bryce didn't look too bad but should have been called since it would have any other time. I feel that if you are getting that far out of the net then contact isn't out of the question but call it fair and they do call that stuff so... CALL IT
But it all comes down to the fact that we couldn't overcome the adversity and looked disjointed out there. You really have to wonder how the Daychief McCabe issues are hurting us. When you have had two or three d-men (Lovdahl, Smith, Carlson) playing forward all season there is an issue, of course a lot of that time Selby was riding the pine. Doesn't make sense we need forwards out there that play forward instead of converting half our D-corp. Part depth and part coaching.
Wiles was a healthy scratch, I assume he was serving his token game suspension. Are these almost over? Why would coach sabotage his career over this?
It was a disappointing loss. If the team was at full strength, roster wise we would have beaten U of M. The FSN announcers like to rave about Stoa, but what about Paul Crowder? He's fast, smart and has a deadly shot. Why is he not NHL drafted? Rest up wolves and come out firing next weekend.
Up until tonight, the team has been holding their own with the suspensions. Shyiak is not sabotaging his career; he is doing what's right. Break the rules and you've earned yourself a suspension. It's a lesson learned the hard way but those guilty will think twice next time the opportunity arises. Plus, it will be carried over for years to come. New players to the program will hear what happened to the team back in '09. I support Shyiak fully.
so bales didn't play either night?
Anyone know what's up with that?
Good question. The team could have used another hustling playmaker.
Don't give up hope. This great team has shown such resiliency all season long. I don't care, win or lose, I will support the Seawolves.
When I saw a game in St.Cloud this year, A UMD fan with his jersey on was bitching at the box office about the ticket price, stating, "When UAA comes to town, you probably drop your prices $10.00" I said, "Hey guy, I'm a Seawolf fan, didn't we beat you this season?" Be proud of the Green and Gold. Alaskan hockey deserves much respect. Don't back down to anyone.
Shyiak quote from College Hockey News weekend round up.
“Too many players are turning their backs. Hitting is part of the game. I think is ruining the game,” Shyiak said. “As coaches we gotta make up our minds. Do we want to allow hitting? Otherwise we should just the say no checking and play women’s hockey. I don’t like it. I don’t like it at all.”
Go Dave let them pansies have it!
Unbelievable series by bryce. You stood on your head in the toughest atmosphere. That was great goaltending
UAA has the most sterile arena atmoshpere in the WCHA. They are at the bottom every year. Just kick them out and put Bemidji in. Alaska sucks at hockey.
The Seawolves just looked tired by the end of it, and with good reason. The travel and short bench caught up with them. To go into the Gophers barn with their talent laden roster and their under-performance of late, the Seawolves played it tough. The penalty to the captain was a ball-breaker. The hit was a type they allow in non-hitting tyke hockey. And the way the Gophers lie on the ice like road kill is like watching European soccer. The almost short-handed goal at the end of the second would have spelled a different game. The Gophers were ready to head down their tunnels. In the end, the Wolves will be a better team. And Anchorage fans don't deserve a playoff series anyway. Might as well go the Denver or ND and have some fun and atmosphere. -30-
I agree. The suspensions should be done. With parents week-end coming up, I think the plan was to have all players serve who were too by then. I think the team did okay (last night was the exception) over the last couple of weeks covering for those who sat. Hopefully those players who did not have suspensions get rewarded in some way and justifyibly so. I would hate to see some of them lose ice time again. I think that Jonny and Bryce played equally well. They stepped up when they had to. Progress.
"UAA has the most sterile arena atmoshpere in the WCHA. They are at the bottom every year. Just kick them out and put Bemidji in. Alaska sucks at hockey." SHUT THE FUCK UP. whatever team you support i feel sorry for them becuase they have another retarted pansy supporting them. SCSU and MSU havent done squat compared to us, and how about MT-1 league win so far? the marucci was dead quiet for 80% this weekend dick. as for mccabe and daychief if they didnt want to play and be a STUDENT then fuck them, better have the team we have then two prissy primadonas on our team. we didnt play well sat. fri-UM's 2nd goal shouldnt have happened-bad bounces and bad puck luck allowed that wimpy shot to go in.
I don't think it should have been CFB, but "A player shall not body check, cross-check, elbow, charge or trip an opponent from the front or side in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently into the boards". It should have been called boarding. 2 or 5 minutes could have been debated, but definitely a penalty, and definitely boarding, IMO.
And if Lucia put out one of his two PP units and tried to score with 20 seconds left, you'd still be saying he is definitely a punk trying to run the score up. So, he puts out the 4th line, but then that means he's trying to get a fight going? Please.
As for the "fight" at the end? It was just like any other scrum in front of the net.
Matthew: I'm with you on the game ending scrum. It was nothing but two tired teams yapping. However that was a nasty hit on a Gopher only because the Gopher bailed with his head down. Nothing but dramatics from my view. Can't play with the big boys? Then go home to Shitmypants, Minnesota. -30-
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=frei_terry&id=3905895
I like that article. Appropriate for this weekend. :)
I disagree with you on the hit on Bryce. Once the goalie goes out to play the puck there is a different standard; whether or not it's written in the rule book, I don't know or care. I see the situation all the time because we have the wandering goalie. When tUMD played Wisconsin, Stalock was checked and knocked over on a clearing attempt and, had Gorowsky not missed a wide open net, UW would have gone up 1-0. I'd love to have seen a penalty in that case but I understand why one wasn't called.
Bryce looked rattled, but what did he think was going to happen when he went behind the net to play the puck?
Superseawolvesfan, $25 for a game at the NHC is a pretty disgustingly high price. From their website, it shows they drop the prices $5 for Michigan Tech, Robert Morris, and Mercyhurst. I would assume that since Tech is there, UAA would be in that tier as well. So while the person was off on the amount, they were right on the policy.
Seawolvesfan: Before you knock down McCabe and Daychief......none of us know the real reason why they left. Altho you are entitled to your opinion, your wrong to call them "prissy primadonas" unless you are sure of the facts. All we had to go on was what Cobb sent out to the press. If you want to believe that, then go for it. Yeah, they left and, yeah, it hurt the team......but those two were far from primadonas. The bottom line is if they didn't want to be on the team, then they were no help to the team. I think the coaching staff and players have moved on long ago from their departure. The rest of us have to as well.
Matthew, by those rules, the hhit on Portwood that sent him into the boards also meets that criteria. Not only did Minny not get the 5 min. and misconduct, they didn't get a penalty at all.
The refs are not consistent, plain and simple. They have too much influence in the outcome of games.
Just wanted to let everyone know that there will be a new coaches show this week. I have been out of town with the Guard and UAA doesn't have anyone else who can fill in...I'm indispensable (yeah right!)! Anyway, normal time this week....so e-mail in those questions for the coach and I will ask them.
I am fine with our current standing at nineth place. Call me crazy, but as of right now Wisconisn is 3rd, being the only team that we did not beat or tie. Right now UND and DU are the two teams as number one in two in the wcha. We have beat both teams in THEIR HOUSE!
Granted I want the team to beat UND this weekend due to bragging rights with family from North Dakota. But if they take two this weekend, I willn't be worried since we have proven we can skate with them.
The real series this weekend for the Seawolves is the one that they aren't even playing. It is Denver at Wisconsin for two games. Denver who has played 23 games and has 29 points, while Wisconsin has played 22 games and has 28 points. Whoever can get a 3 or 4 point weekend then will most likely be who the Seawolves play come playoff time. Denver won both games earlier this year, 6-5 and 7-4. It will be interesting to see where everyone as well as UAA is in the standings after this weekend.
Not sure what to say after reading all the comments, referees, curfew issue, coaches decisions, we have a very talented team here, the university, the players, the coaches should reflect on the past two weekends, if we want a successful program. Let's start this weekend and let the remaining players all play, the captains, assistants and leaders and teamates deserve to get on with it.
The point has been made, mistakes were made, let's get back to playng the game.
I was in Minnesota and I am tired of listening to the past.
We have a very talented team here, let the coaches coach and the players play hockey.
No 1 Fan
Will their be any parents at parent weekend, why would they travel thousands of mile, take leave from work not knowing if their son is going to play.
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Questionable calls aside you are not winning in the WCHA getting 17 shots on net and a pp still at 10 percent. 4 big games left with UND who are tough at the end of the year and UMD who has been good at home. On the road for the playoffs again. Goaltending was good this weekend
David, glad you'll be doing the coaches show, we missed you, but your replacement did well.
What is your email address for questions? They say it so fast and don't put it up on the screen, and I never have time to write it down.
Clark and Crowder clicked twice on the power play this weekend, why have they not been on the same unit all year, one a playmaker the other a finisher.
Explain why every team in the wcha has thier top five players out on the power play unit but us.
Are we saving them to play pro or just wasting their time and ours
Example:
Minnesota, schroder, barribal, and stoa.
donald: You know we can not win with 10 or 11 forwards and two or three players sitting out. Shyiak complained the refs never gave his team a break, he is right, why would they, until he realizes that he has to go with all his players, the other teams will work the system against them, the players know it the coaches know it.
Get the players on your side, don't hope for breaks from the refs or the opposing teams and coaches.
I would love to see the coach pull out all stops down the stretch.
Put the bs behind us, and take out und.
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Leaders lead, they don't blame their troops or workers.
Und is beatable we beat them in their home rink, let's fill the sully and knock off another no1 team.
Go seawolves.
canadian fan
donald:
Why would you praise the minnesota program, is it fun for the players when the opposing fans say uaa suck, is it fun for the players when we don't put our top guns out in the final 5 minutes and try to bury two more goals. If you want this team to win stop sitting players and let them be men, these guys are 20 to 23 years old.
Let them loose on und this week.
Quit treating them like kids, the rest of the wcha does not care how we treat our players, but the players do.
Just a observation from a concerned fan.
No 1 Seawolve fan
This program will never get the credibility it deserves until we treat our players like men.
We can discipline them internally not in the public.
6 Games to go.
Let the players play and win.
9th is for losers, we can still move up in the standings, let's not settle for average. We have talent on this team.
Go seawoles
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Anyone know when we can expect to see Grant back? Nutini (from DU) had a badly separated shoulder and missed 4 games, he is suppposed to be back this weekend. Hopefully Tommy will be back before the playoffs.
Donald, about Lucia, that's why he's on my "wall". And Hill's right up there with him. :)
The past is the past. Let's all focus on this weekend and the one following. DEspite what we think or want, the coaches are going to do what they think is best for the team. What we can do as fans is fill the Sully for ND and Squarebanks. BRING A FRIEND AND HAVE THAT FRIEND BRING ANOTHER FRIEND! Cant beat the $39 special!!
The past is the past, but if they continue to sit players over the curfew issue, the season is over, I doubt whether minnesota or und would go to such extreme measures to ruin the season for the players and the fans.
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Fan, too bad you think the season is ruined. Wow....that is pretty harsh. I'm sorry there are players sitting and we aren't doing as well as we could be, but rules are rules and these rules were set at the beginning of the season. You can't tell me that the benching came to a surprse to any of the players once they were caught. These are 21-23 year old men we are talking about. Gotta start learning about responsibility and accountability at some point in life. Let's see if this is repeated next year or the year after that. I am willing to bet it wont re-occur for a long time. It is too bad that the team as a whole suffered but Shyiak got his point across and hopefully earned the respect from his players that he deserved from the beginning.
Under Shyiak this "curfew" incident has really been the first notable "character-related" negative in the program.
And before that this program has never been known to have problems. This biggest issue they've ever faced was "Bookgate" and quite honestly I was heartened that schollie players were helping non-schollie players buy books. To me that showed high character to do that. It was a blatant breaking of NCAA rules though.
What happened with the curfew was a blatant breaking of Shyiak's rules. The players should have known better. There was no "high character" in coming in late. I got no real issue with one game suspensions for each rule breaker. Blaming Shyiak for enforcing rules overlooks blaming the players for breaking the rules.
No doubt we've got a couple more players to sit but then it will be over. There should be enough regular season after that for the team to gel and establish some of the chemistry we saw in the various line combos. Coach has plenty of good examples of what has worked well through the season. The players absolutely SHOULD know the effort it takes to win. I think/hope that they should be a fiercely competitive team for whomever we face on the road in the playoffs.
This weekends failure to get anything more than one point has a number of causes but I still believe that had the goaltender interference call been made and the Robbie check not been called that UAA would have put together another good Saturday night 3rd period and waltzed outta Goofville with 3 points.
No Sunday Potpourri this week. I'm mentally drained and physically tired from some non-blog related extracurriculars so I'm going out for a cocktail.
Thank you Donald. 'Nuff said about the benching incident. Enjoy your cocktail. It is well
deserved.
No 1 Seawolve fan.....sigh. and why was my comment deleted?
I deleted comments from Gopher fans but I may have deleted one of yours if it was a response to the comment I deleted. If I did I just thought it was necessary for continuity/context in the discussion so don't take it any other way.
Donald, just so the fans know parents and friends of the players also read all the comments on this forum. When they their sons return home for the summer the no 1 question the parents get asked from people is. How do they like playing in Alaska? When the year is over I will answer that question.
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Dave's rant Saturday night has caused a lot of talk. It is being discussed on Donald's favorite blog the Westerncollegehockeyblog and on the College Hockey News blog.
Just a note of interest.
Donald, if you are in the booster room at all on the week-end, come say hi. The parent's are introduced on the ice before the game on saturday. There will probably be name tags again. We are looking forward to the week-end. Anchorage is beautiful. We are especially looking forward to watching the boys play on home ice in front of (what we are hoping) a huge crowd. See you then.
The Seawolves have come a long way. A couple of things that caught my eye. 1.) Coaching has improved from year one. For example, they have the ability to change the teams game plan between periods. 2.) The talent level has throughly improved. For example, the coaching staff has really recruited players who can skate at this level. No more players standing around like pylons. The future looks bright for Shyiak and the Seawolves fans. Good luck the rest of the way.
The crowd this weekend is likely to be about the same size as every other weekend. An expectation for something more is misguided I'm sorry to say. That said ... the 3500 or so folks that show up will be enthusiastic.
Just like any crowd, the fans will cheer if the team gives them reason to. If they lay an egg, the place will be dead. Just like the Mariucci was on Friday night, even though there were 10,000 fans there.
So lets have some fun this weekend okay? Give it your all Seawolves and we'll cheer our hearts out!
To the dick who thinks UAA should be kicked out of the WCHA to make way for the Beavers...screw you! What good would that do for college hockey? The sport only has 58 or so teams, if UAA were left out it would most likely not survive as a program. I hope Bemidji is allowed into the league so that the Seawolves could smack them around. UAA has a roster full of WCHA talented players...not CHA level. It's a tough league and it is holding its own this year. Just think what it could do if it had more resources like the Minnesotas and North Dakotas of the world.
BSU doesn't even have a winning record against WCHA teams this year. If they were in the league, they would be one place up from Tech, with UAA above them in the standings.
UAA 2 - UofM 4 - Referees 4
The Referees also missed two blatant tripping calls on the Seawolves.
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